20 gal no heated tank

[FishFreak]

A friend wants some nice beginner fish for a coldwater or unheated tank I live In Victoria bc he dose want more than 1 fish

[alan j t]

white clouds are cold water fishys

[FishFreak]

Lol thank you Alan but he is a complete beginer he really wants goldfish any small enough for a 20 gal

[Bernie]

None that will stay small enough to be kept in a 20gal for any considerable length of time, unless your friend is considering to upgrade to a bigger tank in the near future. Goldfish are also very social fish and need the company of their own kind, but a 20gall. can't really allow for that.

[FishFreak]

Bernie what do you sugest than I did sugest getting a heater and starting tropicals but he got it as a gift and dosent exactley want to spend to much water I am asking about filter and lights

[Bernie]

The only difference between a coldwater and tropical tank...is a heater, and I don't think they cost that much. Perhaps you could take him to your LFS, he may find other fish that he likes, once he has a good look at the variety of tropicals you can get.

At a pinch he could have 2 of the fancy species of goldfish which stay smaller than regular goldfish, BUT it would definitely not be ideal for the fish, stunt their growth and I wouldn't advise it. Your friend would have to be prepared to do more frequent p.w.changes/tank maintence and will still need to upgrade to a bigger tank sometime in the near future, which will cost money.

Goldfish are often not the best choice to have as beginner fish either, because they do require a lot of care and extra work, the fancy varieties can be quite delicate/sensitive fish. I would advise your friend to research the fish he is interested in.

BTW: It would help if you could use punctuation in your sentences makes it easier to follow. I am not sure what you are asking about the filter/lights Did the tank include filter & lights or do those have to be bought?

I know the tank was a gift, but perhaps he could exchange it for a bigger one, if that is possible. He may really want goldfish, but from my point of view, the fish's welfare should come first.

[FishFreak]

I am sorry for not using puncuation in my sentenses. I mean by like with filter and lights.
1 did it come with them
2 what type of lights and filter
he Can not exchange the tank for a bigger one I think that he should buy a heater and I am going to sugest he gos to my lfs and talk to them.